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Thursday, June 4, 2026

The Disagreement between Iris Murdoch and Martha Nussbaum over the Good (with help from Weil, Dostoevsky, and Gaita)

 

Against the critique of Martha Nussbaum (whose work I admire greatly), I would like to defend Iris Murdoch's Sovereignty of the Good, the importance of conceptual space for the Good in metaphysics as a space for the reality of the experience of the absolute in morality in life. I recall Nussbaum wrote an account of his encounter with Murdoch and finding "the Good" out of place. Her Fragility of Goodness reduces the Platonic Good to a way to protect the ego from the potential of love to hurt and the tragic nature of human life. I recall her reduction of remorse to unproductive, narcissistic self-hatred in Anger and Forgiveness. While I much appreciate Nussbaum's work on tragedy, on literature and philosophy(Love's Knowledge), on the cognitive aspect of emotion (Upheavals of Emotion), and her critique of Stoicism, her rejection of this aspect of Murdoch seems like an ax to grind for her. I think, like Feuerbach, Nietzche, and Marx on religion, she takes corruptions of the Good and the possible dangers of such corruptions for the thing itself. I will try to make sense of this, relying more on my memory of Nussbaum’s work than a recent close study.

 

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Nussbaum seem to think that what Murdoch means by the Good is some super-ethical principle or idealization. I share the view that for Murdoch, the Good is a placeholder-word for a dimension of reality that is encountered in moral experience itself. When she speaks of "the sovereignty of Good," she is trying to preserve a space within metaphysics for experiences that many modern moral philosophies struggle to accommodate: unselfing, repentance, reverence, moral conversion, the painful recognition of one's own selfishness, and the sense that goodness transcends one's desires. When I suffer from guilt over the betrayal of a beloved person, that goes beyond being interpreted as a painful psychological state, a socially conditioned reaction, or an springboard for producing better future behavior. There may be some truth in these but none captures what remorse feels like from within. Perhaps long after any practical consequences can be repaired, I suddenly see what I did. I didn’t just violate a rule. I caused suffering, yes, but in remorse see her as a real person whom I failed to love properly. In that moment, remorse is contra Nussbaum not primarily about me. A feature of genuine remorse is that it is accompanied by a loss of self-concern. My attention is directed outward toward the reality of the other.

     This is where the importance of the Good for Murdoch can make sense. The Good is not another object among objects. It is the transcendent standard that makes truthful vision possible. The Good is what draws us away from fantasy and toward reality. In betrayal, fantasy was powerful. I might tell myself things like "I had my reasons" or “She’ll get over it” or “I could not help falling in love,” etc. Remorse begins when those protective fantasies collapse. The beloved person suddenly appears in his or her full reality. Murdoch draws on Weil’s language of attention. Remorse is an act of attention. It is the painful correction of vision. Attention is the loving, disciplined, and truthful regard for reality that seeks to see another person, thing, or situation as it truly is, rather than as our ego wishes it to be. Attention is the effort to see reality justly. As Weil put it: "Attention consists of suspending our thought, leaving it detached, empty, and ready to be penetrated by the object." This is important for Murdoch as she sees the moral life as the continuous effort to overcome fantasy and selfishness in order to see what is really there.   The Good is an attempt to say what the world must be like if what is revealed by attention – in this case to the beloved person betrayed – has any real being, is not just reducible to psychological (subjective) or social (intersubjective) conditioning structures. It is the metaphysical horizon within which this experience of the reality of the other makes sense. If there is no reality to moral vision beyond preference or social convention, what exactly have I seen? Why should the collapse of my self-serving story count as a disclosure of truth rather than simply a change in feeling? Murdoch in her thought on metaphysics and the Good is clearing the way of modern understandings to understand it as a disclosure of truth. Painful truth. Ironically, Nussbaum saw the Good in Plato as a shield to protect the ego from the pain of failed love and tragedy. For Murdoch, denying a moral reality beyond our persons, cultures, and human natures serves the same ego-protective function.

     The phenomenon I am trying to understand resembles what Plato describes in the ascent from the cave. One sees that one's previous understanding was distorted. The pain belongs to the process of seeing.  Murdoch's account also has affinities with Christian repentance, where repentance is not really self-condemnation so much as a return to reality.

      Here I also think of The Brothers Karamazov. Repentance in Dostoevsky is not self-hatred. It flows from the shock of another person who has been wrong being finally seen. Elder Zosima's teaching that each person is somehow responsible for all is often misunderstood. It is not a doctrine of neurotic guilt. It is an expression of radical attention to the reality of others. Zosima does not mean that I am causally guilty for every evil in the world. He means that no human being is simply 'someone else's problem.' Through attention and love, I come to see that I am implicated in a shared moral reality with others, am part of the world, that my own failures of love have wounded the world in some way. When I hear of a lonely old man, a neglected child, or a despairing neighbor, my ego feels that has nothing to do with me. Zosima is trying to break that spell. He is saying that the fully awakened soul no longer sees other people as strangers occupying separate moral universes. It experiences a profound solidarity with them. This has nothing to do with the neurotic who thinks everything is his fault. The point for Zosima is that everyone matters and should matter to me. Love rather than self-absorption.  Murdoch would recognize this as attention overcoming ego. The point is to deepen one's perception of reality. As attention grows, the boundaries of concern widen. One begins to see that one's life is interwoven with the lives of others. If the Good is real, remorse becomes intelligible even when it is useless.

    I find it significant that as deeply as Nussbaum as written about philosophy and literature – and I love her work in this area (Love’s Knowledge) – she has never really focused on Dostoevsky. One possible explanation is that her philosophical outlook is fundamentally Aristotelian rather than Platonic or Christian. She is thus drawn to literature that illuminates vulnerability, emotion, practical judgment, and the fragility of human flourishing within the conditions of finite life. Dostoevsky explores these themes, but he does so within a moral universe shaped by sin, repentance, grace, and encounters with an absolute Good that transcends human flourishing. His great scenes of remorse and spiritual transformation are not justified by their contribution to well-being or future outcomes but by their disclosure of moral truth. In this he is closer to Murdoch, Weil, and Gaita than to Nussbaum. Murdoch's making space for the Good – a dimension of moral reality that cannot be reduced to worldly-naturalistic categories, even in an expansive Aristotelian sense – provides a metaphysical framework that leaves space for these experiences as genuine perceptions of reality. This in contrast to Nussbaum, who always interprets them within a more this-worldly account of human flourishing. For this reason, Dostoevsky's central concerns may lie somewhat outside the philosophical horizon that has guided much of Nussbaum's work.

        I want to press the example of betrayal and remorse further. Assume that the beloved person is dead and thus the betrayal can never be repaired, thus forgiveness will never be obtained, and thus no future consequences can be altered. Does remorse still matter? I feel that it does. True, it has no practical-utilitarian value at all. Nothing is changed. I think it matters because it is true. My soul needs to stand in the truth about what happened. Murdoch's Platonism leaves space for this feeling, which I guess Nussbaum would discount as it makes no contribution to flourishing in worldly sense. The Good is what allows us to say that seeing reality rightly has value even when it produces no further outcome. Indeed, remorse is one of the clearest experiences of what Murdoch means by transcendence. In ordinary life we are constantly trying to protect the ego. Remorse is one of the rare experiences in which the ego loses. And yet what appears is not emptiness but reality. The beloved person stands before us, perhaps only in memory, with a claim upon us that we must not evade. Murdoch would say that this claim is not merely subjective. It is an encounter with the Good. Or remorse reveals that the beloved was never merely an object of our desire or affection. He or she possessed a reality, a dignity, a significance that exceeded our private interests. The pain of remorse is the pain of finally acknowledging that reality. (Again, everything I say about remorse I learned from Gaita.) Hence, the Good is what allows us to understand why remorse can feel less like self-hatred than like truthfulness. The experience says, in effect, that I see now what this person truly was, and I see now what I truly did. The Good is the horizon within which that seeing what I truly did can be understood as a form of knowledge rather than merely a feeling.

 

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     The central claim of The Sovereignty of Good is that morality is not primarily about choice, decision, or autonomy. Rather, it is about attention to reality. The Good functions as a transcendent pole that draws us beyond the ego. Murdoch's examples – the mother-in-law learning to see her daughter-in-law justly, or the experience of beauty in nature and art – are meant to show that moral progress often consists not in willing differently but in seeing differently. What troubles Murdoch about much modern philosophy, from existentialism to utilitarianism, is that it leaves us imprisoned within the self. Even when it celebrates freedom, it often makes the self the final court of appeal. The Good is needed because moral life contains experiences that feel like responses to something beyond ourselves. We discover that we are wrong; we do not simply decide to change our preferences.

   This is where Murdoch differs from Nussbaum, I think. Nussbaum is sympathetic to many of Murdoch's concerns. She agrees that emotions are cognitive, that literature can reveal moral reality, and that ethical life cannot be reduced to rules. She argues that human flourishing is vulnerable to luck, tragedy, loss, and contingency. She is in many ways recovering the Greek tragic tradition against Stoic invulnerability. I am in full agreement. Yet Nussbaum rejects Murdoch's Platonism. Her ethical vision remains Aristotelian: we are finite creatures living within contingent circumstances, not pilgrims ascending toward a transcendent Good beyond being. Nussbaum’s worldly ethics asks how human beings can flourish within the conditions of ordinary human life. Murdoch’s other-worldly ethics asks whether moral life points beyond ordinary human life toward a transcendent reality. Nussbaum's ethics is worldly in the sense that the highest moral realities are found within human life itself: friendship, love, justice, vulnerability, tragedy, compassion, and practical wisdom. She is interested in how finite human beings can live well despite suffering, loss, and contingency. The moral horizon remains fundamentally human. Murdoch's ethics is other-worldly in the Platonic sense that moral experience points beyond the self and beyond ordinary human concerns toward the Good. Love, attention, beauty, remorse, and unselfing are not merely parts of flourishing; they are intimations of a transcendent reality that continually draws us beyond ourselves.

    The contrast is perhaps most visible in remorse. For Nussbaum, the question is: How does remorse contribute to repair, understanding, or flourishing? For Murdoch, the question is: What truth about reality is disclosed in remorse? Nussbaum looks for the highest things within the human world; Murdoch believes the highest things appear within the human world but are not exhausted by it. Neither rejects love, suffering, or moral seriousness; they disagree about whether these experiences ultimately point beyond the world or find their fulfillment within it. For me, the problem of Nussbaum's worldliness is that is it unable to account for some of the deepest moral phenomena, like remorse. In Anger and Forgiveness, Nussbaum is concerned with how self-reproach can become narcissistic and unproductive. It can be like that and probably is in many cases. Some forms of guilt are indeed forms of ego-absorption. But Murdoch would agree with Gaita that genuine remorse is not essentially self-hatred. It is a disclosure of reality. In remorse, one suddenly sees what one has done to another person. The focus shifts away from the self and flourishing in this world toward the reality of the other.

   Same logic with love. Nussbaum emphasizes the vulnerability involved in loving finite beings. Love exposes us to loss, betrayal, grief, and tragedy. Murdoch agrees completely. But Murdoch asks a deeper question: What makes love capable of overcoming selfishness at all? Her answer is that love participates in something transcendent. The Good is not merely a psychological strategy for coping with vulnerability. Love directs us toward a reality greater than ourselves and this makes our vulnerability meaningful. Love makes us vulnerable because it opens us to disappointment, suffering, and loss. Yet this vulnerability is not meaningless because in genuinely loving another person we are responding to something real and valuable beyond our own interests. Love draws us out of the ego toward a reality greater than ourselves. The pain of love therefore testifies not merely to our dependence but to our participation in something objectively worthwhile. For Murdoch, love is meaningful despite its risks because it is a response to reality, not merely a strategy for satisfying our needs. This is why Murdoch differs from views that treat love primarily as a source of flourishing or psychological fulfillment. We may be wounded by love, but if love is a truthful attention to another person, then the wound itself can reveal something of the Good. The vulnerability is meaningful because it arises from contact with reality rather than from illusion.

   A purely psychological account may also allow that love helps me transcend my ego. That could be accepted by almost anyone, including many secular psychologists. Love broadens my perspective, reduces narcissism, and makes me care about others. Murdoch thinks it is only half the story. The deeper question is why should transcending the ego count as wisdom rather than merely change? Why is attention to another person better than self-absorption? Murdoch's answer is that in loving attention we are not merely changing our mental state. We are becoming more responsive to reality. The crucial move is from "I am less self-centered" to "I see more of what is really there." For Murdoch, the reality of another person is already a hint of transcendence. The other person continually exceeds my concepts, desires, and fantasies. The beloved is not simply an object within my private world. He or she possesses an independent reality that resists my attempts to reduce it to my purposes. When I truly attend to another person, I discover something that is not my creation. I encounter a reality that places a claim upon me.

   Everything we take to be real and serious presupposes at least a vague metaphysical picture of the world. What kind of universe must this be if such claims are real? Murdoch's answer is not that every act of love contains a proof of God. Rather, she thinks that experiences of truthful attention reveal a structure of reality ordered toward the Good. Psychological transcendence means moving beyond the ego. Metaphysical transcendence means discovering that there is something beyond the ego to which one ought to respond. The first concerns the transformation of the self. The second concerns the nature of reality. The way we understand the former depends on the way we understand the latter. For Murdoch we move beyond the ego because reality itself is richer and more significant than the ego. Thus she is never satisfied with purely therapeutic accounts of love.

      Suppose I devote myself to a dying spouse. A this-worldly, psychological account at its best may tell me that this love enlarges my perspective and enriches my life. Murdoch would not deny that. But she wants to add that my love is also a response to something objectively real and valuable in that person. The value is not merely projected by your feelings. The beloved is not precious simply because you happen to care. My caring is a response to a reality that deserves care. The person before me is not merely an occasion for my self-transcendence. The person's reality participates, however imperfectly, in the Good itself. That is the metaphysical move. Actually, the conception of worldly vs. other-worldly I find distorting since it all depends on how one defines and limits these terms. I am also a this-worldly person, only that naturalistic pictures of this world, even rich ones like Aristotle’s, obscure aspects of its reality. In loving another person we discover not merely the limits of the self but the depth of reality. For Murdoch, love transcends the ego not merely because it changes us psychologically, but because it awakens us to a reality whose value is independent of our wishes; that independent value is what she calls the Good.

 

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This points to what I think is the deepest disagreement. For Nussbaum, the highest realities are largely contained within human life itself: friendship, love, political justice, literature, practical wisdom, tragedy. The world is enough. For Murdoch, these realities point beyond themselves. The experience of beauty, truth, and goodness carries an intimation of transcendence. The Good is not one value among others but the horizon that makes moral experience intelligible. Murdoch does not claim that we possess knowledge of the Good in any straightforward metaphysical sense. Rather, she wants a metaphysics spacious enough to acknowledge that moral life contains experiences of transcendence, moments when goodness appears as something objective, inexhaustible, and greater than ourselves and our pictures of the world. Without such conceptual space, experiences of awe before goodness, radical repentance, unconditional love, saintliness, or moral conversion tend to be redescribed as psychological states, evolutionary adaptations, social constructions, or coping mechanisms. Once we begin explaining them entirely in those terms, we have explained away precisely what was most important about them. Nussbaum, despite sharing many of Murdoch's moral concerns, is ultimately less willing to grant those experiences metaphysical significance. Whether that is philosophical caution or philosophical reductionism is precisely the question that divides them.

 

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-What does a philosopher fear? I think a question Murdoch urged. Philosophers are also driven by visions, images, loves, and fears. Behind every philosophy lies a picture of reality and, often, a picture of what would be unbearable if that reality were true.

   What does Nussbaum fear? Or rather, what philosophical dangers does Nussbaum consistently resist? I think Nussbaum fears three things. First, she fears the denial of human vulnerability. I am in sympathy with this. Throughout The Fragility of Goodness, she argues against traditions that seek invulnerability through reason, metaphysics, or spiritual transcendence. She returns repeatedly to the Greek tragedians because they remind us that even the best human life remains exposed to fortune. The danger she sees is that philosophies of transcendence can become evasions of suffering. They can promise a higher realm in which loss does not really matter. Second, Nussbaum fears the degradation of the particular person. Again and again, whether discussing tragedy, political justice, disability, or emotions, she insists on the irreducible reality of concrete individuals. She fears that the singular human being standing before us may disappear into a larger metaphysical narrative. If life in this world means little or nothing, as Socrates argues in the Phaedo, or if the love for a particular beautiful human being is an inferior, someone illusory for of a love that should be given to beauty itself, as in the Symposium, the this world and real loves are de-meaned.

     Third, Nussbaum fears wishful thinking. Her work exhibits honesty about the tragic dimension of life. Children die. The innocent suffer. Love can be destroyed. History offers no guarantee of justice. Etc. She seems unwilling to affirm any metaphysical doctrine merely because it would make these realities easier to bear. In this respect she resembles the Greeks she admires. There is something anti-consolatory about her thought.

    The strange thing is that Murdoch shares every one of these fears, which lead her in the opposite direction. She believes transcendence helps us see suffering more clearly. Nussbaum worries it may tempt us to look away from it. Attention to the Good is precisely what allows us to see the individual justly.

    Murdoch fears that reality will be reduced to the ego. She fears a world in which all values become projections, all meanings become constructions, all moral claims become preferences. She fears what she often calls fantasy: the self-enclosed consciousness that can no longer acknowledge anything greater than itself. Nussbaum fears illusion; Murdoch fears reduction. Nussbaum fears that transcendence may be a dream; Murdoch fears that skepticism may blind us to reality.

     The disagreement is therefore deeper than a dispute about Plato. It concerns what constitutes intellectual courage. For Nussbaum, courage often means refusing comforting metaphysical assurances. For Murdoch, courage often means admitting that goodness may be more real than our theories can explain. This is why their disagreement is so fruitful. Neither is defending selfishness, relativism, or cynicism. Both are trying to preserve something precious. Nussbaum wants to preserve honesty before tragedy; Murdoch wants to preserve openness to transcendence. My fear is whether Nussbaum's fear of illusion may lead her to explain away experiences that seem to disclose something real.

  

I still don’t feel like I have thought this through but it is the best I can do today. 

Perhaps the key to understanding the difference between Murdoch and Nussbaum can be found in what Gaita writes about morality as absolute, sui generis, meaning in its purer forms one is confronted with a certain reality and one must do this or that, regardless of any consequences. There can be differences about whether the absolute command comes from an honor code – for many in the military it is an absolute not to leave anyone behind – or a transcendent source. The grammar is the same. Moral imperatives are not derived from utility, flourishing, contracts, evolution, or social convention. They are simply there to be acknowledged. His examples are familiar: the sacredness of a human life, the horror of cruelty, the dignity of the severely disabled person, the meaning of remorse, the love of a parent for a child. The crucial point is that these realities are experienced as revelations of how things truly are.

    This is where he comes close to Murdoch.  With Murdoch we attend to reality and discover the Good. For Gaita, we encounter realities whose significance is absolute. Both are trying to preserve the thought that morality is not merely a human construction. The difference is that Gaita is less explicitly metaphysical. He begins with the phenomenon itself. A person sees the humanity of a disabled child, or the evil of a concentration camp guard's actions, and finds that no further justification seems necessary. But Murdoch goes a step further. She wants to know what kind of reality must this be if such experiences are not subjective or intersubjective compulsions? If they are rooted in Being itself. Her answer is the Good. Thus Gaita's notion of the absolute can be seen as the phenomenological side of Murdoch's metaphysics. Gaita describes the experience of moral absoluteness; Murdoch provides a metaphysical picture of why such experiences may disclose reality rather than merely express feeling. But both do not reduce phenomena like remorse, love, compassion, or human dignity to their consequences. They understand them first as forms of acknowledgment, which is to say, as responses to realities whose significance seems intrinsic and unconditional. The Good, for Murdoch, is what makes sense of that absoluteness.

      For Gaita and Murdoch, certain moral realities possess an absolute significance that cannot be fully explained by their contribution to flourishing or happiness (eudaimonia). The dignity of a severely disabled child, the evil of betrayal, the sacredness of a beloved person, the reality disclosed in remorse, such things matter even if no increase in flourishing results from acknowledging them. Nussbaum, by contrast,  understands moral life within the framework of human flourishing (eudaimonia), broadly conceived. Love, compassion, grief, remorse, vulnerability, and practical wisdom are valuable because they belong to, or are constitutive of, a fully human life. She greatly enlarges what counts as flourishing compared with narrower ethical theories, but flourishing remains the horizon.

  Thus the question of whether the dignity of a person is important because recognizing it contributes to flourishing, or does flourishing matter because it respects a dignity that is already there. To put it differently, is remorse valuable because it contributes to a good human life, or because it acknowledges a moral truth regardless of its contribution to a good life?  That is where the disagreement becomes deepest and I hold with Murdoch and Gaita here. Gaita writes about a mother caring for a severely disabled child or a nun tending the incurably insane in ways that seem to transcend flourishing altogether. Such actions often involve suffering, sacrifice, heartbreak, and no obvious gain. Yet they seem morally deep. Their value is not exhausted by flourishing because they participate in the Good, as Murdoch might say. Their value is absolute and sui generis, as Gaita would put it.

     Nussbaum would likely try to bring these examples back into a richer account of human flourishing. Murdoch and Gaita suspect that something essential is lost when one does so: namely, the sense that morality sometimes places claims upon us that are not grounded in our flourishing at all, but in the reality of what is before us. That, I think, is the deepest fault line between them. It is not a disagreement about kindness, compassion, or love. It is a disagreement about whether these realities are ultimately grounded in human flourishing or whether flourishing itself is answerable to something more fundamental. Nussbaum is Murdoch minus a metaphysical horizon beyond the natural human and is Gaita minus mystery.

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